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Kobe convinced himself that he
could do whatever it was that he

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was trying to do.

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I'm so excited I get
two rings this year.

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Two rings?

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Yeah, two rings.

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My wedding band and
this championship ring.

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Five NBA championships,
two Olympic gold medals.

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A once in a generation talent.

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But in the end--

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Charges were filed
against Kobe Bean Bryant.

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Things weren't always smooth.

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It wasn't always
a straight line.

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This alleged crime
happened 14 months ago,

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but a criminal case
will be dropped.

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It was a bumpy road.

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The night that Kobe ruptured
his Achilles tendon,

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he said, I felt like somebody
kicked me in the back of my leg.

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I reached back there, and I
tried to pull it back down.

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I've had a lot of
guys rupture Achilles.

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I've never heard
anybody say that.

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It's [bleep] sad.

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And once the locker
room door was closed,

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he lost his mind,
yelling, cursing,

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throwing Gatorade bottles all
over the place, people ducking.

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My mental switch--
don't fucking touch me.

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Don't talk to me.

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Right away, you're like, now you
know you're talking to the

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Black Mamba.

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You're not talking to Kobe.

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And then I said, Kobe, Vanessa
and the girls are in my office.

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I tell you, it
was like a switch.

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He went from Black Mamba, OK,
that just ruptured his Achilles

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to Kobe.

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Wasn't sure I could do it.

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Your kids walk in, and you're
like, I got to set an example.

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Daddy's going to be fine.

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I'm going to do it.

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If you were a fan and you
only saw the Black Mamba,

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there was more, a lot more.

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The other side of him was
someone totally different.

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So you've got this
duality with him.

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He had to take a good,
hard look at himself

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and decide, who do I want to be?

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Kobe!

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Kobe!

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The future was
limitless for him.

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L.A. County Fire Department.

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And then all of a sudden--

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A helicopter crashed
into a mountain.

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Kobe always felt like he wanted
to go young and be immortalized.

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That's what he used to say.

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And we're looking at the
flames right now on the hill.

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My mind went to the
conversations we had.

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Like, damn, he spoke this.

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That injury was the end.

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It wasn't the
beginning of the end.

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It was the end.

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Worked really hard
to get to this point.

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Players at this stage of their
career, they pop up Achilles

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and the pundits say they
never come back the same.

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So I can hear it already, and
it's pissing me off right now

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just thinking about it.

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Kobe showed even more emotion
and anger on Facebook.

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He wrote--

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It scared me.

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My career could
be over now, man.

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After his Achilles tear, he
was already feeling pretty low.

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It becomes very, very public
that his parents were selling

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some of his memorabilia
without his consent.

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For the first time ever,
rare Kobe Bryant memorabilia

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is up for sale.

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900 items appraised
at $1.5 million.

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Those are real jerseys from
Kobe's high school days?

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Yeah, that is correct.

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It caused a lot of chaos.

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NBA superstar Kobe Bryant
facing off against his mother.

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Were it not for the
circumstances surrounding

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the auction, items like this
would never have come for sale.

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Typically, when an athlete
sells something, they're older

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or they need money.

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I'm not clear, and I know that--

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I don't know that anyone is on
how much financial aid Kobe has

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given his parents
over the years,

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but there's still been a very
rocky relationship between them

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ever since his
marriage to Vanessa.

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I think, from his mind,
it was sort of always

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wanting more and more and more.

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He seemed genuinely
disillusioned with his parents

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that they would do
something like that.

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Kobe Bryant, he says no.

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He's trying to block this
auction, says it's his stuff.

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I had heard over the years that
he and Joe would periodically

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get together, but then I
heard about this lawsuit.

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And I think it hit
me at that point

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that this is probably
not going to be resolved.

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Kobe Bryant has reportedly
reached a settlement

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with his parents.

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The auction house will still get
to sell a fraction of the items.

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Bryant's parents also released
a statement apologizing.

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"We apologize for any
misunderstanding and unintended

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pain we have caused our son and
appreciate the financial support

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he has provided over the years."

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End quote.

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So when I see that
stuff, it angers me

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because I know how genuine and
loving and caring parents

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they are.

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They are nothing like what's
the narrative that's out there

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about them.

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Nothing like that.

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And that is-- no, it is--

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it's pretty sad, man.

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I could have never imagined this
family that endlessly talked

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about being only
dependent on one another

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because they had been the only
Black people in their village

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in Italy, and to
sort of fast-forward

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and realize that they're
so at odds with each other

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that a lawsuit has to be filed.

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That was really painful to see.

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They had moved to Italy
with his father's career.

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My dad was moving out there
into a whole other world.

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We didn't speak the language.

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We didn't know anybody.

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We had to bond with one
another more so than anything.

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Because Kobe would talk about
family in Italy so much,

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that Italy is about family.

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He would tell you all the time
that was the happiest moments

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of his life.

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When the financial landscape
changes, everything changes.

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There is a level of, do
I now take care of you?

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All those NBA stars,
all those NFL stars,

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they take care of
their families.

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So I guess my confusion
was, why are you

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any different from
these other guys

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that feel the need to have
to help their families?

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Why are you so frustrated?

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Whatever the reason is, I
didn't understand the need

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to be public about it.

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Did you ever have conversations
with him about trying

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to reconcile with his parents?

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Uh-uh.

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Uh-uh.

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No, uh-uh.

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No, I stayed away from that.

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I don't... no.

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There's been times where it
just feels like this is the end.

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But what I've come to find out
is that no matter what happens,

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the storm eventually ends.

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And when the storm does end, you
want to make sure that

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you're ready.

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Kobe and I exchanged
emails in spurts.

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I actually got to know him
more after he left high school.

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Kobe's holding my
young daughter.

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Our friendship really deepened
and developed over the next

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20 years.

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Our conversations about writing
started to surface when he was

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in his last year of basketball.

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Kobe started
thinking, what's next?

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It's hard.

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I mean, I don't
know what to expect.

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What am I going to be
after I'm done playing?

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Because I'm getting really
close to that point.

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I've thought about
it a little bit

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in terms of, what is
the deciding factor?

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I mean, how do players actually
know when it's time to hang

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them up?

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I'm as excited for this season
as I've been in a long time.

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I actually ended up meeting Kobe
when rumors were flying that he

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was going to retire that year.

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So what we're your
retirement plans?

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Kobe, do you ever
think about the end?

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I mean, you talked when you
first got hurt about, hey,

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maybe I should just retire.

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But he wasn't committing.

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He wasn't saying anything.

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And I kept tossing and
turning with, how do you know?

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I mean, I was fortunate
but unfortunate

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to have these injuries.

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I say "fortunate" because it
gave me a lot of time to think.

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But the reality is this must
be a decision that comes

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from within.

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And so I asked him.

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I said, so that rumor was true?

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He said, yeah.

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I said, well, why don't
you say something?

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I don't want all
the old man stuff.

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I said, well, got to give
people a chance to say goodbye.

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A month later, I remember his
secretary at the time sending me

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something and saying, Kobe
wanted to be sure that you

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saw this.

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Bryant posted a note online
Sunday called Dear Basketball.

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Say it ain't so.

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Basketball legend Kobe
Bryant says he'll be hanging

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up his sneakers this season.

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He's lived the American dream.

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He came into the league at 17.

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Bryant posted a 52-line
farewell online Sunday.

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"My heart can take
the pounding."

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"My mind can handle the grind."

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"But my body knows when
it's time to say goodbye."

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"This season is all
I have left to give."

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I just was in awe of what
he had achieved with that,

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and I then wrote back and
said, I wouldn't change a word.

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So what's new?

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I never actually told
the game how I felt,

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and once I decided to write
it from that perspective,

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then the words just came
in a matter of minutes.

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I wrote to him,
"Hello, dear man.

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So of course, we read
the poem today in class,

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and their response was, 'He
wrote this?'" And he wrote back,

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"Thank you.

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Of course, I wrote it.

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I had a teacher that was and
still is completely awesome."

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If I said, man, I wasn't getting
a little emotional about it,

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I'd be lying.

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It's a little different when--

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When you are giving
up something that's

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consumed your entire life,
it leaves such a void.

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I think he gave himself
a day to mourn it.

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There's so much beauty and
the pain of this thing.

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And it sounds really weird
to say that, but it's--

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I appreciate the really,
really tough times as much

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as I appreciate the great times.

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And it's important to go
through that progression

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because I think that's where
you really learn about the self.

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How's it going?
What's going on, man?

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All right, all right.

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All right?

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The first half of his career
is like people was attacking

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his character and this and that.

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You know, to hear stories
about his teammates hated him.

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His teammates were coming
out, was talking about him.

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It was like, you
heard a lot of things,

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saying he ran Shaq out of town.

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I believe there's nothing in
life that fueled Kobe's game

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more than hate.

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The end of it is like
people was loving this guy.

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Seriously?

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Kobe, can you talk about
what your legacy will be?

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Come on, man.
Come on.

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Come on.
You know.

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You know.

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They started to get to know
who Kobe is, the real person.

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At that point, he
could let the hate go.

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It was the happiest that
I had ever seen him.

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He enjoyed his teammates.

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He enjoyed playing.

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The pressure was off,
the job of winning.

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Once it was off the table, he
became more of a human being.

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The hottest ticket
tonight in Los Angeles,

250
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it will be to see Kobe Bryant's
last NBA game with the Lakers.

251
00:13:53,666 --> 00:13:57,335
Kobe had just enough left in the
tank to script his own ending.

252
00:13:57,336 --> 00:14:00,255
Hopefully we can make this night
some type of celebration, where

253
00:14:00,256 --> 00:14:01,840
I can give them something
where they're not thinking

254
00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:03,508
about the fact that
this is my last game.

255
00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:04,509
They're just
thinking about, this

256
00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:06,135
is a hell of a game to watch.

257
00:14:06,136 --> 00:14:10,473
He comes to the bench, and he'd
just be absolutely exhausted.

258
00:14:10,474 --> 00:14:11,808
And I knew it.

259
00:14:11,809 --> 00:14:13,935
He was looking at me,
and I'm looking at him.

260
00:14:13,936 --> 00:14:15,354
And I said, you had enough?

261
00:14:15,479 --> 00:14:16,771
He goes, no.

262
00:14:16,772 --> 00:14:19,524
I'm going to go till I drop.

263
00:14:19,525 --> 00:14:20,984
And he dropped 60.

264
00:14:20,985 --> 00:14:22,694
So yes, I'm walking
away from the game,

265
00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:24,196
but don't think I'm
old and decrepit.

266
00:14:24,321 --> 00:14:26,656
I'm walking away because I'm
ready to do something else.

267
00:14:26,657 --> 00:14:27,949
Kobe.

268
00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:30,369
60 points for the sixth
time in his career

269
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and in his final game.

270
00:14:31,996 --> 00:14:34,582
Yeah, it felt good to be able
to do that one last time.

271
00:14:38,627 --> 00:14:39,878
Thank you.

272
00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:44,425
I was actually nervous
for Kobe in his career

273
00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:48,011
because I thought to
myself, what are you

274
00:14:48,012 --> 00:14:49,554
going to do after basketball?

275
00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:51,765
He doesn't have that personality
that he's just going to keep

276
00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:54,058
playing and hobbling
up and down the court.

277
00:14:54,059 --> 00:14:57,562
He's thinking like, this
is the end of this chapter.

278
00:14:57,563 --> 00:14:59,565
Let's focus on the next chapter.

279
00:15:01,942 --> 00:15:03,192
Damn, what am I going to do?

280
00:15:04,987 --> 00:15:06,906
You know what I mean?

281
00:15:07,031 --> 00:15:10,743
So I kept thinking, asking
the wrong question, which

282
00:15:10,868 --> 00:15:13,412
is the biggest industry
I can get into?

283
00:15:13,537 --> 00:15:14,747
What industry can I get--

284
00:15:14,872 --> 00:15:17,373
I can get into that
has the biggest upside?

285
00:15:17,374 --> 00:15:18,750
Wrong question.

286
00:15:18,751 --> 00:15:23,546
The beautiful thing about him
is that he was always in search

287
00:15:23,547 --> 00:15:24,924
of something.

288
00:15:25,049 --> 00:15:26,926
And then I started asking,
what do you like doing?

289
00:15:27,051 --> 00:15:28,427
What do you love to do the most?

290
00:15:28,552 --> 00:15:30,011
I love storytelling.

291
00:15:30,012 --> 00:15:32,388
I absolutely love it, love
it, love it, love it, love it,

292
00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:33,432
love it.

293
00:15:33,557 --> 00:15:36,434
He was just thinking
about it as a career.

294
00:15:36,435 --> 00:15:40,939
He sent me some short scene work
and started to just get his head

295
00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:42,983
around the idea
of, can I do this?

296
00:15:54,286 --> 00:15:56,121
My last year when people asked
me what I was going to do

297
00:15:56,246 --> 00:15:57,622
and I'd say I'd go
into storytelling,

298
00:15:57,623 --> 00:15:59,625
they were like-- well,
I got a lot of these.

299
00:16:00,584 --> 00:16:01,335
What about that?

300
00:16:01,460 --> 00:16:02,585
Oh, a lot of them.

301
00:16:02,586 --> 00:16:07,007
It's hard to really even
entertain a serious conversation

302
00:16:07,132 --> 00:16:09,384
about me being able to do
something else other than

303
00:16:09,385 --> 00:16:10,511
play basketball.

304
00:16:10,636 --> 00:16:12,220
So I just want to tell
those fuckers, see?

305
00:16:12,221 --> 00:16:13,096
You were wrong.

306
00:16:13,097 --> 00:16:14,597
It was like another challenge.

307
00:16:14,598 --> 00:16:17,433
It was like-- so I can get
any meeting that's all cool,

308
00:16:17,434 --> 00:16:20,228
and you sit down, and they're
trying to pitch you on being

309
00:16:20,229 --> 00:16:21,981
on the show, being in
front of the camera.

310
00:16:22,106 --> 00:16:24,440
I'm like, I'm not about that.

311
00:16:24,441 --> 00:16:26,901
I actually just got
sick and tired of it.

312
00:16:26,902 --> 00:16:30,279
So what we've had to do is
just build it ourselves.

313
00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,492
Kobe was famous for
cold-calling people of greatness

314
00:16:34,493 --> 00:16:37,328
across the board of society,
and one of the people

315
00:16:37,329 --> 00:16:43,001
that Kobe admired, I think,
the most was John Williams.

316
00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:44,585
Oh, my God, Why?

317
00:16:44,586 --> 00:16:45,420
Why?

318
00:16:45,421 --> 00:16:46,838
Why me?

319
00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:51,801
I told Kobe I've never been to
a basketball game in my life.

320
00:16:51,802 --> 00:16:53,512
You study the people
who inspire you.

321
00:16:53,637 --> 00:16:55,389
You learn from the
things that they've done.

322
00:16:55,514 --> 00:16:57,181
You try to figure
out how they did it,

323
00:16:57,182 --> 00:16:58,808
why they did it that way.

324
00:16:58,809 --> 00:17:01,729
And Kobe wanted to know, how
do you write Harry Potter?

325
00:17:01,854 --> 00:17:06,774
And his interest was in
how these ideas come about,

326
00:17:06,775 --> 00:17:09,360
the concept of inspiration.

327
00:17:09,361 --> 00:17:12,406
And that's how we
started our relationship.

328
00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:14,449
When I had the idea of
turning Dear Basketball

329
00:17:14,450 --> 00:17:17,493
into an animated short,
I called him, and I said,

330
00:17:17,494 --> 00:17:18,995
John, would you--

331
00:17:18,996 --> 00:17:21,831
Would I be interested in
writing music for this?

332
00:17:21,832 --> 00:17:24,375
And he goes, I'm
just a little busy.

333
00:17:24,376 --> 00:17:25,626
I was busy.

334
00:17:25,627 --> 00:17:27,628
I was working on one
of the Star Wars films.

335
00:17:32,926 --> 00:17:36,804
He said, would you mind if I use
the same orchestra as I'm using

336
00:17:36,805 --> 00:17:38,347
for the Star Wars film?

337
00:17:38,348 --> 00:17:41,727
I'm like, yeah, you know, I
think we're good with that.

338
00:17:41,852 --> 00:17:43,352
I couldn't resist doing it.

339
00:17:43,353 --> 00:17:47,356
And there was something about
this man that said that his life

340
00:17:47,357 --> 00:17:48,024
is not over.

341
00:17:48,025 --> 00:17:50,651
It's just beginning.

342
00:17:50,652 --> 00:17:56,741
We immediately moved into the
execution of the short film.

343
00:17:56,742 --> 00:17:58,409
Kobe chose Glen Keane.

344
00:17:58,410 --> 00:18:02,497
He's one of the top
guns in that field.

345
00:18:02,498 --> 00:18:07,335
I spent nearly 40 years at
Disney animating a mermaid,

346
00:18:07,336 --> 00:18:11,172
the Beast, Aladdin, Tarzan.

347
00:18:11,173 --> 00:18:16,719
I mean, I think of drawing as
a seismograph of your soul,

348
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,013
and Kobe connected with that.

349
00:18:19,014 --> 00:18:21,849
To me, being hand-drawn is
representative of the

350
00:18:21,850 --> 00:18:23,143
story itself.

351
00:18:23,268 --> 00:18:25,436
So there's a lot of
imperfections in there,

352
00:18:25,437 --> 00:18:29,273
but the beauty comes
from those imperfections.

353
00:18:29,274 --> 00:18:35,238
Storytelling, for him, was
the beginning of a new path.

354
00:18:35,239 --> 00:18:40,368
There was a scared part of Kobe
moving into that, which is why I

355
00:18:40,369 --> 00:18:43,913
think that he was so intent,
like, no, you need to come along

356
00:18:43,914 --> 00:18:46,749
with me on this journey.

357
00:18:46,750 --> 00:18:50,545
The core of the film itself
is starting with a dream,

358
00:18:50,546 --> 00:18:55,091
but then understanding that
it takes work to get there.

359
00:18:55,092 --> 00:19:00,180
It was a career that
takes time to build.

360
00:19:00,305 --> 00:19:03,432
It's just incredible the
way memory plays such

361
00:19:03,433 --> 00:19:08,312
an important part in your life,
and this became the theme,

362
00:19:08,313 --> 00:19:11,399
for me, of Dear Basketball.

363
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,403
The artist should be always in
touch with his childish self,

364
00:19:15,404 --> 00:19:18,906
the first eight years before you
really understood what was up

365
00:19:18,907 --> 00:19:20,408
and down.

366
00:19:20,409 --> 00:19:23,411
The actual work in process
was back at Glen's studio

367
00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:27,999
where we had Glen, Kobe, and
myself analyzing the film.

368
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,751
A sense of magic and
a sense of discovery.

369
00:19:30,752 --> 00:19:32,420
Right, the blank canvas.

370
00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:35,674
That to bring that
kind of openness

371
00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:40,636
is the thing that we get
older, we forget how to do.

372
00:19:40,637 --> 00:19:42,347
I sat down with him.

373
00:19:42,472 --> 00:19:48,352
I said, so I have to know what
you were thinking and feeling

374
00:19:48,353 --> 00:19:50,980
in each one of these plays.

375
00:19:50,981 --> 00:19:52,524
I'll never forget.

376
00:19:52,649 --> 00:19:55,318
There was one particular shot
where there was three seconds

377
00:19:55,319 --> 00:19:59,155
left in the game, and as
he's moving full speed,

378
00:19:59,156 --> 00:20:03,368
it's down to less
than a second left.

379
00:20:03,493 --> 00:20:08,415
But the angle that he was
moving was so extreme--

380
00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:10,083
Has to put it up
with the buzzer.

381
00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:12,710
Bags it in!

382
00:20:12,711 --> 00:20:16,005
He said, do you want
to know how I did that?

383
00:20:16,006 --> 00:20:18,425
It was like, if you ride on
a bicycle when you're a kid,

384
00:20:18,550 --> 00:20:20,051
you ever play this
game with your friends,

385
00:20:20,052 --> 00:20:22,596
you have to throw a rock and
try to hit the telephone pole.

386
00:20:22,721 --> 00:20:25,556
In Italy, my friend and
I would ride our bikes,

387
00:20:25,557 --> 00:20:30,103
and we'd throw this rock and
try to hit this telephone pole.

388
00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:32,397
But our rocks kept missing.

389
00:20:32,522 --> 00:20:34,398
So as you're moving
this way, you kind of

390
00:20:34,399 --> 00:20:35,943
have to throw it back.

391
00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:37,735
If you throw it directly this
way, you're going to miss it.

392
00:20:37,736 --> 00:20:41,406
And then our momentum would
have that rock hit the pole.

393
00:20:41,531 --> 00:20:44,158
He said, that's what I was
thinking at that moment.

394
00:20:44,159 --> 00:20:52,459
Dear Basketball was a chance
for him to relive his experience

395
00:20:52,584 --> 00:20:58,257
the way his dad brought him
into basketball to bring him

396
00:20:58,382 --> 00:21:00,092
into his world.

397
00:21:00,217 --> 00:21:04,345
And I could tell by the way
Kobe talked about those days,

398
00:21:04,346 --> 00:21:07,431
those were really,
really precious.

399
00:21:07,432 --> 00:21:10,435
He said, when I was a
little kid and practicing,

400
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,397
I would set up chairs and
pretend they were players.

401
00:21:14,398 --> 00:21:17,942
You asked for my hustle.

402
00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:21,070
I gave you my heart.

403
00:21:21,071 --> 00:21:23,657
This is the original
pencil sketch.

404
00:21:23,782 --> 00:21:26,660
You can see here 50
seconds point three--

405
00:21:26,785 --> 00:21:28,954
And so I ran.

406
00:21:29,079 --> 00:21:34,626
I ran up and down every court
after every loose ball for you.

407
00:21:34,751 --> 00:21:41,090
And it was in the storyboarding
where I got to the end,

408
00:21:41,091 --> 00:21:47,638
and I realized that little
six-year-old Kobe and big Kobe

409
00:21:47,639 --> 00:21:51,143
have to be on the
court together.

410
00:21:51,268 --> 00:21:56,315
And we both know, no
matter what I do next,

411
00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,319
I'll always be that kid
with the rolled up socks.

412
00:22:00,444 --> 00:22:03,237
At that moment, I
just got chills.

413
00:22:03,238 --> 00:22:05,323
This is what this is about.

414
00:22:05,324 --> 00:22:09,076
That little six-year-old
Kobe is there and this idea

415
00:22:09,077 --> 00:22:14,166
that it's true for everybody.

416
00:22:14,291 --> 00:22:16,000
We're professionals
and everything,

417
00:22:16,001 --> 00:22:19,295
but really, we're just
six-year-old kids still living

418
00:22:19,296 --> 00:22:20,422
out a dream.

419
00:22:25,177 --> 00:22:26,844
Former Lakers
legend Kobe Bryant--

420
00:22:26,845 --> 00:22:28,012
has a new title.

421
00:22:28,013 --> 00:22:29,847
He's an Oscar nominee.

422
00:22:29,848 --> 00:22:33,393
Kobe got the nod
for Dear Basketball.

423
00:22:33,518 --> 00:22:37,688
By the time Kobe was up for
an Academy Award nomination,

424
00:22:37,689 --> 00:22:41,859
the world was a little
more enlightened, perhaps.

425
00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:43,861
If you've been online
this week at all,

426
00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:46,364
♪ you will have seen
the hashtag

427
00:22:46,365 --> 00:22:48,032
Men in particular
all around the world

428
00:22:48,033 --> 00:22:50,201
are going to have to deal
with the consequences

429
00:22:50,202 --> 00:22:51,702
of their actions.

430
00:22:51,703 --> 00:22:54,706
And drawing an almost immediate
reaction on social media

431
00:22:54,831 --> 00:22:59,753
♪ from
basketball star Kobe Bryant.

432
00:22:59,878 --> 00:23:02,171
You don't get to pack
Colorado away, never

433
00:23:02,172 --> 00:23:03,172
to be heard from again.

434
00:23:03,173 --> 00:23:04,840
That's not how life works.

435
00:23:04,841 --> 00:23:06,218
How do you plead?

436
00:23:06,343 --> 00:23:07,885
Not guilty or guilty?

437
00:23:07,886 --> 00:23:09,345
Not guilty.

438
00:23:09,346 --> 00:23:10,888
And that's certainly how
those people who petitioned

439
00:23:10,889 --> 00:23:15,727
his nomination felt. But
maybe the Academy didn't care.

440
00:23:15,852 --> 00:23:18,438
The nomination
was not rescinded.

441
00:23:24,069 --> 00:23:26,487
Kobe!

442
00:23:26,488 --> 00:23:29,907
It was the first time for
me ever to be at the

443
00:23:29,908 --> 00:23:31,242
Academy Awards.

444
00:23:31,243 --> 00:23:32,368
Then to hear--

445
00:23:32,369 --> 00:23:34,413
Dear Basketball, Glen Keane--

446
00:23:34,538 --> 00:23:40,084
And I looked over, and I'm
used to Kobe like always

447
00:23:40,085 --> 00:23:41,710
on top of it.

448
00:23:41,711 --> 00:23:44,922
I look over and just thinking,
why is he-- why is he waiting?

449
00:23:44,923 --> 00:23:50,637
And Kobe was like, I
couldn't believe my ears.

450
00:23:50,762 --> 00:23:53,389
He goes into this
really fast Italian--

451
00:23:54,891 --> 00:23:57,477
To my wife Vanessa, our
daughters, Natalia, Gianna,

452
00:23:57,602 --> 00:23:59,980
and Bianka, [Italian].

453
00:24:00,105 --> 00:24:02,523
You are my inspiration.

454
00:24:02,524 --> 00:24:05,025
My daughter gave me the
best piece of advice.

455
00:24:05,026 --> 00:24:09,738
I was a little worried about
turning this into a film.

456
00:24:09,739 --> 00:24:11,283
I'd never done something
like that before.

457
00:24:11,408 --> 00:24:15,244
And my little 11-year-old Gianna
goes, well, Dad, you always tell

458
00:24:15,245 --> 00:24:16,997
us to go after our dreams, so--

459
00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:23,210
Kobe Bryant winning an Oscar
stunned a lot of people,

460
00:24:23,211 --> 00:24:27,214
given Kobe Bryant's history with
allegations of sexual assault.

461
00:24:27,215 --> 00:24:28,549
I mean, it shows
that Hollywood is

462
00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:30,051
willing to forgive and forget.

463
00:24:32,512 --> 00:24:36,807
What happened in
Colorado damaged lives,

464
00:24:36,808 --> 00:24:44,815
but I do believe that it played
a role in Kobe transforming

465
00:24:44,816 --> 00:24:47,194
into the person that he became.

466
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:51,323
You can't help but be
different-- the challenges, who

467
00:24:51,448 --> 00:24:52,824
you are as a person.

468
00:24:52,949 --> 00:24:54,826
And the only thing
that you can do

469
00:24:54,951 --> 00:24:57,328
is just put one foot
in front of the other

470
00:24:57,329 --> 00:25:00,665
and just continue
to move forward.

471
00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:07,171
He engaged unconditionally
with his daughters.

472
00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:08,882
In a way, I may
have hurt your mom.

473
00:25:09,007 --> 00:25:13,010
You all are never, ever, ever
going to feel that level of pain

474
00:25:13,011 --> 00:25:14,637
coming from me.

475
00:25:14,638 --> 00:25:19,475
I'm going to love them harder
than any other father could ever

476
00:25:19,476 --> 00:25:20,852
love any of his children.

477
00:25:20,977 --> 00:25:24,021
I think fatherhood meant
everything to Kobe's life.

478
00:25:24,022 --> 00:25:26,607
His first was Natalia,
which he called Nani.

479
00:25:26,608 --> 00:25:30,319
His second was
Gigi, and then BB.

480
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,155
I can be an absolute teddy
bear at home with my family,

481
00:25:33,156 --> 00:25:35,658
with my kids, and
enjoying that family time.

482
00:25:35,659 --> 00:25:39,954
And I'm really psychotic
about having that family time.

483
00:25:39,955 --> 00:25:43,750
Once Kobe retired, he could
immerse himself in his girls.

484
00:25:45,961 --> 00:25:52,092
Gigi said to Kobe, Dad,
I want you to teach me.

485
00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:56,887
He said, well, that means you're
going to have to get up at 4:00

486
00:25:56,888 --> 00:25:59,515
in the morning, and we're going
to have to get on the

487
00:25:59,516 --> 00:26:00,725
court together.

488
00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:01,809
You ready to do that?

489
00:26:01,810 --> 00:26:02,476
Yes.

490
00:26:02,477 --> 00:26:04,895
No hesitation.

491
00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:09,276
What I used to get from him a
lot was videos of Gigi playing.

492
00:26:09,401 --> 00:26:13,195
And it would be moves, like
step back, fall away moves.

493
00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:17,409
Who does this remind you of?

494
00:26:17,534 --> 00:26:21,745
The first interaction
I had with the Gigi

495
00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:25,917
was the 2019 All-Star
game in Las Vegas.

496
00:26:26,042 --> 00:26:28,920
He says, Gigi, I want you to
meet one of the best that's ever

497
00:26:29,045 --> 00:26:30,379
played the game.

498
00:26:30,380 --> 00:26:33,382
I say, I can't wait to see what
you're going to do in the WNBA,

499
00:26:33,383 --> 00:26:36,010
because you're
going to tear it up.

500
00:26:36,011 --> 00:26:38,554
He's playing defense on her,
and I love how she gives him

501
00:26:38,555 --> 00:26:40,180
a little jab.

502
00:26:40,181 --> 00:26:46,520
Even at a young age, you can see
where Kobe was really starting

503
00:26:46,521 --> 00:26:47,981
to teach her the game.

504
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,776
Well, coaching the kids is fun.

505
00:26:52,777 --> 00:26:54,613
My daughter just decided
she wanted to play,

506
00:26:54,738 --> 00:26:57,449
and then she made a
local all-star team.

507
00:26:57,574 --> 00:27:00,242
And that's where we met the
rest of the girls that are now

508
00:27:00,243 --> 00:27:01,577
on the team.

509
00:27:01,578 --> 00:27:04,538
The Mambas was his girls
that he was coaching.

510
00:27:04,539 --> 00:27:09,209
I went to a practice to
see how structured it was.

511
00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:12,797
I was like, damn, this is like
an NBA practice around here.

512
00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:17,885
He was telling me
a year or so prior

513
00:27:17,886 --> 00:27:24,099
that they was losing every
game, and they got back

514
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:25,644
to kicking people's ass.

515
00:27:25,769 --> 00:27:28,312
And it was because of him
and what he was instilling

516
00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:30,315
in those girls, the confidence.

517
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,987
More important than the game
itself is how you understand

518
00:27:36,112 --> 00:27:39,990
that their confidence
as young women

519
00:27:39,991 --> 00:27:44,829
grows tremendously
through playing the sport.

520
00:27:44,954 --> 00:27:51,169
Coaching youth sports is so
important because you're helping

521
00:27:51,294 --> 00:27:53,962
the emotional development
of young kids.

522
00:27:53,963 --> 00:27:55,798
It's been beautiful
watching them grow.

523
00:27:55,799 --> 00:28:00,302
He was really wrapped up with
his girls, and you can feel it.

524
00:28:00,303 --> 00:28:01,888
You can see it there.

525
00:28:02,013 --> 00:28:03,806
The best thing that
happens is when we go out

526
00:28:03,807 --> 00:28:06,308
and fans will come up to me, and
she'll be standing next to me.

527
00:28:06,309 --> 00:28:08,644
And they'll be like, hey,
you got to have a boy.

528
00:28:08,645 --> 00:28:10,270
You and V got to
have a boy, man.

529
00:28:10,271 --> 00:28:12,565
You got to have somebody carry
on the tradition, the legacy.

530
00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:14,441
She's like, oi, I got this.

531
00:28:15,610 --> 00:28:17,820
It's funny he talks
about, everybody

532
00:28:17,821 --> 00:28:20,197
says you should have a boy.

533
00:28:20,198 --> 00:28:21,198
Why?

534
00:28:21,199 --> 00:28:22,449
He was all in on his girls.

535
00:28:22,450 --> 00:28:23,410
All in.

536
00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:24,244
Yes, you do.

537
00:28:24,369 --> 00:28:25,786
You got this.

538
00:28:25,787 --> 00:28:27,538
He believed in his daughter,
so he was just-- he was just

539
00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:29,123
dreaming.
That's what Kobe did.

540
00:28:29,124 --> 00:28:30,499
He was a dreamer.

541
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:32,377
Do you think your daughter
might want to play in the WNBA?

542
00:28:32,502 --> 00:28:33,502
She does, for sure.
She does?

543
00:28:33,503 --> 00:28:35,003
Yeah, I know what it means.

544
00:28:35,004 --> 00:28:36,130
This kid, man.

545
00:28:36,131 --> 00:28:40,509
The year the WNBA orange
hoodies first came out,

546
00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:44,055
Kobe is the first that I can
remember wearing the hoodie,

547
00:28:44,180 --> 00:28:45,472
sitting courtside.

548
00:28:45,473 --> 00:28:49,894
Once I saw his focus on wanting
women's basketball to grow,

549
00:28:50,019 --> 00:28:52,312
they wanted his mentorship,
and he was more than willing--

550
00:28:52,313 --> 00:28:53,647
I think there are a couple
players that could play

551
00:28:53,648 --> 00:28:55,232
in the NBA right now, honestly.

552
00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:57,985
I mean, there's a lot of players
that have a lot of skill that

553
00:28:57,986 --> 00:28:59,237
can do it.

554
00:28:59,362 --> 00:29:02,782
Training with players like
Sabrina, Napheesa Collier--

555
00:29:02,907 --> 00:29:06,493
Jewell Loyd, Kobe Bryant
said, you're the Gold Mamba;

556
00:29:06,494 --> 00:29:09,789
Diana Taurasi, oh,
you're the White Mamba.

557
00:29:09,914 --> 00:29:13,500
I think the word Mamba
sort of, the genesis of it

558
00:29:13,501 --> 00:29:15,128
was obviously the Black Mamba.

559
00:29:15,253 --> 00:29:18,922
And then it became
sort of, I don't know,

560
00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:24,094
it was a compliment to be
called a Mamba of some kind.

561
00:29:24,095 --> 00:29:29,809
Yeah, if they put that villain
label on you, don't run from it.

562
00:29:29,934 --> 00:29:33,687
Embrace it and turn
it into being a hero.

563
00:29:33,688 --> 00:29:35,105
I can still dunk.

564
00:29:35,106 --> 00:29:36,690
Yeah.

565
00:29:36,691 --> 00:29:39,234
We watched how he had
transformed once he stopped

566
00:29:39,235 --> 00:29:40,278
playing basketball.

567
00:29:40,403 --> 00:29:42,113
Kobe, to your left!

568
00:29:42,238 --> 00:29:46,617
He's about to really be
a whole another person.

569
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:49,077
A congrats in order
for Kobe Bryant.

570
00:29:49,078 --> 00:29:52,790
Kobe's wife, Vanessa, gave
birth to a girl this week,

571
00:29:52,791 --> 00:29:57,586
and she shares a name with
her Dad, Capri Kobe Bryant.

572
00:29:57,587 --> 00:29:59,631
When I saw him in
2019, I'm like,

573
00:29:59,756 --> 00:30:02,758
you look so happy,
like really happy.

574
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:06,513
He's like, I am so happy.

575
00:30:09,724 --> 00:30:11,308
The last week of January.

576
00:30:11,309 --> 00:30:14,479
Sunday morning we're going to
see more clouds and cooler air

577
00:30:14,604 --> 00:30:16,022
moving in.

578
00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:18,191
Dense fog advisories now issued
through tomorrow morning.

579
00:30:20,735 --> 00:30:24,489
And then the last thing you
think is someone's going to

580
00:30:24,614 --> 00:30:26,949
pass away.

581
00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:28,159
L.A. County Fire department.

582
00:30:28,284 --> 00:30:30,619
I just heard a
helicopter go over me.

583
00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:31,620
It went over my head.

584
00:30:31,621 --> 00:30:33,373
It's thick in clouds.

585
00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:34,666
And then I just--

586
00:30:34,791 --> 00:30:38,002
I heard a pop, and it
immediately stopped.

587
00:30:38,127 --> 00:30:41,214
I'm getting text messages,
phone is ringing,

588
00:30:41,339 --> 00:30:46,510
and I'm like, I don't know
what you're talking about.

589
00:30:46,511 --> 00:30:52,349
There are some people that
you feel are invincible.

590
00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:55,270
And I felt like Kobe
Bryant was invincible.

591
00:31:17,292 --> 00:31:21,670
Breaking news to bring
you out of California.

592
00:31:21,671 --> 00:31:23,505
Los Angeles County
Fire Department

593
00:31:23,506 --> 00:31:25,841
just briefed reporters.

594
00:31:25,842 --> 00:31:28,844
We received a call
of an aircraft down.

595
00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:30,096
This was a helicopter.

596
00:31:30,221 --> 00:31:32,098
We just know that it's
multiple fatalities,

597
00:31:32,223 --> 00:31:33,641
and there were no survivors.

598
00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:41,565
Tell me this isn't true.

599
00:31:41,566 --> 00:31:43,233
No, I'm not going
to believe that.

600
00:31:43,234 --> 00:31:45,570
I'm not going to believe that.

601
00:31:45,695 --> 00:31:48,072
I can remember I'm shaking.

602
00:31:48,197 --> 00:31:50,407
I'm looking through my phone.

603
00:31:50,408 --> 00:31:51,743
Nobody knows.

604
00:31:51,868 --> 00:31:53,745
Nobody confirmed
anything, right?

605
00:31:53,870 --> 00:31:56,581
So I call his sister.

606
00:31:56,706 --> 00:31:57,624
No answer.

607
00:31:57,749 --> 00:31:59,751
Call his cousin.

608
00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:00,627
No answer.

609
00:32:00,752 --> 00:32:02,086
And I'm like--

610
00:32:02,211 --> 00:32:05,339
My phone rings, and it's
my boss from the NBA.

611
00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:07,716
The first thing he says to
me, you have a TV there?

612
00:32:07,717 --> 00:32:08,592
And I said, yeah.

613
00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:09,885
He says, turn it on.

614
00:32:09,886 --> 00:32:11,929
We begin with this
tragic breaking news.

615
00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:14,933
One of the greatest basketball
players of all time--

616
00:32:15,058 --> 00:32:18,435
NBA star Kobe Bryant was
on board that helicopter.

617
00:32:18,436 --> 00:32:23,065
Absolute shock and
speechlessness in Los Angeles.

618
00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:42,793
I looked on my phone, and alert
came that said Kobe Bryant dies

619
00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:45,462
in a plane crash.

620
00:32:45,463 --> 00:32:48,465
I went numb.

621
00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:50,592
I called Tracy.

622
00:32:50,593 --> 00:32:51,511
I pick it up.

623
00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:54,137
She's like, are you OK?

624
00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:57,307
What are you talking
about, am I OK?

625
00:32:57,308 --> 00:33:00,311
She said, oh, my God, oh,
my God, Kobe just died.

626
00:33:00,436 --> 00:33:05,399
And he said, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

627
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,608
It's louder and louder.

628
00:33:06,609 --> 00:33:09,111
No, no, no, no.

629
00:33:09,112 --> 00:33:13,448
No, no, no, no, no.

630
00:33:13,449 --> 00:33:15,450
He hung up on me.

631
00:33:15,451 --> 00:33:20,831
And I called him back,
and he was crying.

632
00:33:20,832 --> 00:33:22,499
And he said, I can't talk.
I can't talk.

633
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:23,125
I can't talk.

634
00:33:23,126 --> 00:33:25,460
I could not believe.

635
00:33:25,461 --> 00:33:26,337
Not Kobe.

636
00:33:26,462 --> 00:33:27,504
Not Kobe.

637
00:33:27,505 --> 00:33:30,173
No, not Kobe.

638
00:33:30,174 --> 00:33:34,136
I cried all day, all night.

639
00:33:34,137 --> 00:33:36,680
Kobe had a very, very,
very special relationship

640
00:33:36,681 --> 00:33:42,895
with my kids from damn near
from the time they were born.

641
00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:45,022
We have pictures all
over our house of Kobe

642
00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:47,983
with our kids in different
stages of their lives.

643
00:33:47,984 --> 00:33:53,488
And the thing that got me
that was hardest for me

644
00:33:53,489 --> 00:33:57,367
was telling them.

645
00:33:57,368 --> 00:33:59,412
Yeah, I've done some
hard shit in my life,

646
00:33:59,537 --> 00:34:05,792
but that was one of the most
difficult ones I had, really.

647
00:34:05,793 --> 00:34:07,169
It's 11:30.

648
00:34:07,170 --> 00:34:08,837
I got to go pick up my daughter.

649
00:34:08,838 --> 00:34:10,797
And this is when
they reported that--

650
00:34:10,798 --> 00:34:15,969
Kobe's daughter, Gianna, known
as Gigi, she's 13 years old,

651
00:34:15,970 --> 00:34:20,390
was also on board
the helicopter.

652
00:34:20,391 --> 00:34:22,517
Yeah.

653
00:34:22,518 --> 00:34:26,521
And my daughter was
crying, and I was crying.

654
00:34:26,522 --> 00:34:36,531
And I just had to pull
over and collect myself.

655
00:34:36,532 --> 00:34:40,744
And I immediately
thought of Vanessa.

656
00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:47,293
Because as a parent, and
as a wife, but as a parent,

657
00:34:47,418 --> 00:34:52,381
you never think that you're
going to lose your child.

658
00:34:55,259 --> 00:34:58,428
There were so many people that
lost their lives that day.

659
00:34:58,429 --> 00:35:01,432
On board were Kobe Bryant,
his daughter, Gianna, members

660
00:35:01,557 --> 00:35:04,143
of the Altobelli family,
John, his wife, Keri,

661
00:35:04,268 --> 00:35:05,602
and their daughter, Alyssa.

662
00:35:05,603 --> 00:35:08,230
Sarah Chester and her daughter,
Payton, were on board--

663
00:35:08,231 --> 00:35:12,485
the pilot, Ara Zobian,
and Christina Mauser.

664
00:35:12,610 --> 00:35:13,777
So sad indeed.

665
00:35:13,778 --> 00:35:16,279
They were simply going to
a girls' basketball game.

666
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:22,452
I think the world actually
stood still for a moment.

667
00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:26,748
Players taking 24-second pauses
to start the games to honor

668
00:35:26,749 --> 00:35:30,961
the man who, of course, wore
24 for much of his career.

669
00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:33,588
We all have had our ups
and downs and our trials

670
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:34,756
and tribulations.

671
00:35:34,757 --> 00:35:36,383
He's gotten through all
of those and has come out

672
00:35:36,384 --> 00:35:39,637
on the other end a
better man for that.

673
00:35:39,762 --> 00:35:41,930
Kobe!

674
00:35:41,931 --> 00:35:44,642
Hundreds of people have gathered
here at the Staples center.

675
00:35:44,767 --> 00:35:45,977
It's like a family member.

676
00:35:46,102 --> 00:35:47,811
I haven't felt this way
since my father died.

677
00:35:47,812 --> 00:35:50,647
One of the reasons I picked up
basketball, one of the reasons

678
00:35:50,648 --> 00:35:52,941
why I continue this day.

679
00:35:52,942 --> 00:35:56,821
Does not-- it just
doesn't seem real.

680
00:35:56,946 --> 00:35:58,321
I miss Kobe.

681
00:35:58,322 --> 00:35:59,948
Yeah, sorry, sorry.

682
00:35:59,949 --> 00:36:02,368
I just need a minute.

683
00:36:02,493 --> 00:36:07,622
Seeing all the artwork on
every wall, paintings of Kobe

684
00:36:07,623 --> 00:36:13,045
everywhere, I just thought
immediately of him talking to me

685
00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:18,008
about how--

686
00:36:18,009 --> 00:36:22,012
how your life counts.

687
00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:24,264
What makes your life count?

688
00:36:24,265 --> 00:36:26,893
It's touching as many
people as you can.

689
00:36:29,437 --> 00:36:32,606
Well, even on people that he's
never met beyond just being

690
00:36:32,607 --> 00:36:35,609
an amazing basketball player
but how he was evolving

691
00:36:35,610 --> 00:36:40,907
and the steps that he was taking
on his next chapter in life.

692
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:53,001
I was never supposed
to outlive Kobe Bryant.

693
00:36:53,002 --> 00:36:54,295
That wasn't the plan.

694
00:36:56,797 --> 00:36:59,883
I watched him grow up.

695
00:36:59,884 --> 00:37:04,804
He watched me grow old, and then
he was going to watch me as I

696
00:37:04,805 --> 00:37:06,306
went to the next life.

697
00:37:06,307 --> 00:37:10,852
I wasn't going to see him
do that and his daughter.

698
00:37:10,853 --> 00:37:18,026
That thing about "time heals
all wounds," that's not true.

699
00:37:18,027 --> 00:37:19,153
They don't heal.

700
00:37:34,126 --> 00:37:39,673
Kobe was the MVP of
girl dads, or MVD.

701
00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:46,429
What I felt in that room was
Mrs. Bryant's love for him.

702
00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:48,265
I was amazed that she
was able to do that.

703
00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:49,891
I admired her greatly.

704
00:37:49,892 --> 00:37:53,938
She's very fiercely protective
of his legacy, of their family.

705
00:37:54,063 --> 00:37:58,066
He always told the girls how
beautiful and smart they are.

706
00:37:58,067 --> 00:38:02,279
He taught them how to be brave
and how to keep pushing forward

707
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,531
when things get tough.

708
00:38:04,532 --> 00:38:08,201
As they kept doing the camera
around the whole arena,

709
00:38:08,202 --> 00:38:11,538
I saw Joe and I saw Pam.

710
00:38:11,539 --> 00:38:14,333
That was hard to watch, but
I think what was even harder

711
00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:16,543
to watch was to watch
them not get acknowledged.

712
00:38:16,544 --> 00:38:19,630
I mean, he's gone, and
they never made up.

713
00:38:22,717 --> 00:38:25,385
Had he been able to grow older,
I would have hoped that he would

714
00:38:25,386 --> 00:38:28,514
have been able to say, look,
I've been given all of this.

715
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:34,602
Let me find a way back to
the foundation of my life.

716
00:38:34,603 --> 00:38:39,317
When did you know that you would
like to be a basketball player?

717
00:38:43,362 --> 00:38:45,947
Since I was really,
really young.

718
00:38:51,537 --> 00:38:54,289
Something that my parents
instilled in us early,

719
00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:56,458
you make sure you give
maximum effort all the time

720
00:38:56,459 --> 00:38:58,377
and make sure it's
done the right way.

721
00:39:01,505 --> 00:39:04,050
Walking on the hardwood,
lacing up your sneakers,

722
00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:04,884
I just love it.

723
00:39:05,009 --> 00:39:05,759
I love jumping.

724
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,677
I love dunking.

725
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:11,931
My father always challenged me
to become a better basketball

726
00:39:11,932 --> 00:39:13,726
player than him.

727
00:39:13,851 --> 00:39:16,896
I have decided to skip college
and take my talents to the NBA.

728
00:39:22,693 --> 00:39:25,862
Everybody watched him grow up,
watched him to become this sort

729
00:39:25,863 --> 00:39:26,906
of force.

730
00:39:30,284 --> 00:39:31,951
Kobe Bryant, how do you
want to be remembered?

731
00:39:31,952 --> 00:39:34,914
I just want to be remembered as
a down-to-Earth person, a guy

732
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,583
who enjoyed his teammates,
enjoyed his classmates,

733
00:39:37,708 --> 00:39:40,460
and was able to
excel in basketball.

734
00:39:40,461 --> 00:39:44,005
But overall, I don't want to be
remembered as just a

735
00:39:44,006 --> 00:39:46,716
basketball player.

736
00:39:46,717 --> 00:39:50,845
He was still on a journey,
a path of understanding

737
00:39:50,846 --> 00:39:53,724
how he was going to
impact this world.

738
00:39:53,849 --> 00:39:59,312
In his afterlife, he has become
something that very rarely has

739
00:39:59,313 --> 00:40:03,733
ever been seen by
anybody, anybody.

740
00:40:03,734 --> 00:40:06,986
I believe the outer grief, the
collective grief that came out

741
00:40:06,987 --> 00:40:12,826
of Kobe's death, is
rooted in redemption.

742
00:40:12,827 --> 00:40:16,579
Certainly, I was open for
Kobe Bryant redeeming himself.

743
00:40:16,580 --> 00:40:17,914
Do I think he got there?

744
00:40:17,915 --> 00:40:18,916
I don't know.

745
00:40:19,041 --> 00:40:20,542
From people I've talked
with who know him,

746
00:40:20,543 --> 00:40:21,918
it seemed like he got there.

747
00:40:21,919 --> 00:40:25,423
It seemed like he
certainly changed.

748
00:40:25,548 --> 00:40:26,632
People are complex.

749
00:40:26,757 --> 00:40:28,091
We want everyone to be good.

750
00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:29,592
We want everybody to be bad.

751
00:40:29,593 --> 00:40:31,637
And that's just not it.

752
00:40:31,762 --> 00:40:36,266
We're all human, and
we all make mistakes.

753
00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:37,934
I think that's what makes us us.

754
00:40:37,935 --> 00:40:42,730
It's a fact that we can be both,
and we just hope that the hero

755
00:40:42,731 --> 00:40:46,109
side of us manifests itself
more frequently than the villain

756
00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:47,027
nature does.

757
00:40:58,122 --> 00:41:02,460
All of us have got that
dark and that light side.

758
00:41:02,585 --> 00:41:04,043
None of us is perfect.

759
00:41:04,044 --> 00:41:08,715
Kobe lived it in a way
that the world watched.

760
00:41:08,716 --> 00:41:13,137
Struggle, victory,
redemption, these

761
00:41:13,262 --> 00:41:16,140
are the elements
that Kobe embraced.

762
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:24,815
How do you channel the
villain to unleash the hero?

763
00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:28,943
How do you use darkness
to create greatness?

764
00:41:28,944 --> 00:41:34,325
How do each of us navigate
through our own insecurities,

765
00:41:34,450 --> 00:41:37,785
own moments of doubt?

766
00:41:37,786 --> 00:41:40,955
Imagination is key because you
have to be able to envision it

767
00:41:40,956 --> 00:41:43,709
and dream it first.

768
00:41:43,834 --> 00:41:45,460
Put one foot in
front of the other,

769
00:41:45,461 --> 00:41:47,213
you control what
you can control,

770
00:41:47,338 --> 00:41:50,174
and then you see
what the outcome is.

771
00:41:50,299 --> 00:41:51,841
Chase that dream.


